Is Pokémon Tides and Gales Real? Gen 10 Leak Sparks Fan Debate
With nearly three years since Pokémon Scarlet and Violet, fans are eagerly awaiting news on Generation 10. Enter the latest rumor: Pokémon Tides and Gales, allegedly in development for the Nintendo Switch 2. But is it real? Or just another fan-made hoax?

Let’s break down the leak, the skepticism, and what it could mean for Pokémon’s future.
What is Pokémon Tides and Gales?
The rumored Gen 10 games, Pokémon Tides and Gales, supposedly take place in the Lados Region — a Greek-inspired island chain with 16 main islands and 150+ smaller ones. The starter trio is rumored to be:
- Embaah (Fire-type goat)
- Octopop (Water-type octopus)
- Mosshell (Grass-type snail)
A legendary Pokémon named Thalorion is said to switch between flying (Aeraxis Forme) and water (Marexis Forme) forms.
The new battle gimmick, called Gigaxis, would replace Scarlet and Violet’s Terastallization. By pledging to island guardians, players could unlock form changes that eventually become permanent.
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Why Fans Are Skeptical
Despite detailed descriptions, many believe Tides and Gales is fake. Here’s why:
- The Source: The leak originated from a 4chan post, a platform notorious for false rumors.
- Logos Look Off: The leaked English logos have poor formatting, uneven kerning, and resemble fan art more than official Game Freak designs.
- Naming Patterns: Terms like Gigaxis feel too close to past mechanics (Gigantamax), which could confuse players. Similarly, Thalorion’s name seems unoriginal, echoing Unovan legendaries like Virizion.
- No Japanese Source: Major Pokémon leaks traditionally come from Japan, not English game versions.
- Feels Like Pandering: The similarities to Pokémon Sun and Moon’s island concept might be a deliberate attempt to appeal to nostalgia.
Why Some Still Believe
Interestingly, a popular Scarlet and Violet theory already hinted at a Greek setting. A painting in-game showed a “far away region” resembling Mediterranean architecture. Initially thought to reference Italy, the Cyclades islands in Greece are now seen as a stronger match.
Additionally, leaker Centro Leaks (with a mixed accuracy record) backed the Greek setting rumor, though they didn’t confirm the Tides and Gales title.
What a Greek Region Could Offer
Even if this leak is fake, the idea of a Greek-inspired Pokémon region is exciting. It opens doors for:
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- Mythology-based Pokémon (Minotaurs, Sphinxes, Hydras)
- New Legendary Pokémon tied to gods like Zeus or Poseidon
- Island-hopping gameplay refreshed with open-world mechanics
- Potential for regional forms and new evolutions based on Greek myths
While Hoenn was heavy on Water-types, modern design could balance island gameplay with less water traversal.
Verdict: Tides and Gales Likely Fake, But Greek Gen 10 Feels Possible
For now, Pokémon Tides and Gales remains unconfirmed and likely fan fiction. However, the Greek region theory gains traction, hinting Game Freak might indeed be exploring this setting.
Until official word from The Pokémon Company, take all leaks with a Poké Ball-sized grain of salt.
What do you think?
Would you like Gen 10 to explore a Greek-inspired region, even if Tides and Gales isn’t real? Share your thoughts below.
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- https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/nintendo/pokemon-fans-torn-new-evolution-charmander-287063-20250513
- https://www.radiotimes.com/technology/gaming/pokemon-tides-and-gales-gen-10-explained
- https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/pokemon-gen-10-s-leaked-setting-supports-one-scarlet-and-violet-theory/ar-AA1EndHm
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